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why not raise rates on rich, fight for a simp her tax system that -- simpler tax system that might provide lower taxes down the road. >> well we need to demand concessis on spending. neil: we're not getting them. >> that is the point, so putting up taxes is not a way of getting concessions in the future. neil: from the get go they put up that 800 billion figure. >> a starting point, the problem is that, as you know, not only will the democrats want more in taxes, but they have in place, with this horrible dea that was done a year and a half ago with debt sealing that gives deal -- there is a deal in place. and it recalls that fiscal cliff, but the deal of made a year and a half ago, the republicans, democrats and president signed off on this, allowing tax increases to go back in place. and they signed on to half a trillion in cuts, inomtic programs and half a trillion in defense, understand at this is as a conservative, defense is 16% of the budget. other 84% gets half a trillion, defense getting half a trillion. the democrats are welcoming this to happen. >> the guy who ran second to mitt
why not raise rates on rich, fight for a simp her tax system that -- simpler tax system that might provide lower taxes down the road. >> well we need to demand concessis on spending. neil: we're not getting them. >> that is the point, so putting up taxes is not a way of getting concessions in the future. neil: from the get go they put up that 800 billion figure. >> a starting point, the problem is that, as you know, not only will the democrats want more in taxes, but they have...
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. >> taxing the rich, they're against that. >> there are individual ins out there they can appeal to. my point is broadly speaking you cannot lump -- what demint is doing is saying this gaggle of conservatives will be following behind. the split is much more than you think it is within the party. that has to be reconciled, to be honest and to your point and your question about what would i say, i would say, look, understand where the -- >> you're center right and you think the country is. >> understand where the country is. that's where you need to be. >> on the rush limbaugh show yesterday, demint, the senator from south carolina just quit said conservative's problem is not their message, their problem is getting the message out. let's listen. >> i think the problem is, as conservatives, we have not taken enough control of our message and our ideas and communicated them directly to the american people. that's what we want to do at heritage. >> don't you love the way he chews on that togy? not that there's anything wrong with it. you're back here again. every party that loses an elect
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no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> first he supported and now he doesn't. we're talking about mitch mcconnell's legislation to avert defaulting on the nation's debt t would give the president greater power to raise the debt ceiling without approval, something the president wants. senator mcconnell brought up the legislation yesterday morning but by yesterday afternoon he was objecting. >> is there an objection? >> preserving the right to object matters of this controversy, what we're talking about is a perpetual debt ceiling grant in effect to the president. >> this morning, republican leader asked for consent on his proposal. just now i told everyone that we're willing to have that vote. up or down vote. and now
no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> first he supported and now he doesn't. we're talking about mitch mcconnell's...
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house republicans would allow a vote on extending the bush middle class tax cuts. that bill already passed in august in the senate. and offer the president nothing more. no extension to the debt ceiling, nothing on unemployment, nothing on loopholes. congress would recess for the holidays and the president would face a big battle early in the year over the debt ceiling. ." two republican officials tell me this is becoming the most likely scenario. "the new york times" added more detail including this amazing quote from rep michael c. burgess of texas. "there's always better ground, but we have to get there." in this case the better ground is exchanging the threat of a congressionally induced recession for the threat of a congressionally induced global financial crisis combined with recession. that, that is your better ground? that's a big plan? it's not -- it's not better ground for the economy. and, frankly, i find it difficult to see how it's better political ground even for the gop. i figured, i didn't get it. so i figured this was beyond my small political brai
house republicans would allow a vote on extending the bush middle class tax cuts. that bill already passed in august in the senate. and offer the president nothing more. no extension to the debt ceiling, nothing on unemployment, nothing on loopholes. congress would recess for the holidays and the president would face a big battle early in the year over the debt ceiling. ." two republican officials tell me this is becoming the most likely scenario. "the new york times" added more...
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president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term unemployed. that means people like linda vega, are worried. >> christmas and things of that nature are probably off the table. >> reporter: aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon. but that meeting ended with no discernible signs of progress. rob and paula? >> thanks, tahman. >>> once the numbers are all tallied, they're going to show that the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. campaign finance statements put the total cost at well above $2 billion. virtually split down the middle between president obama and mitt romney. that includes nearly $86 million raised by
president obama is demanding that higher tax rates for the wealthy and a permanent extension of the debt ceiling, the government's ability to borrow money, be part of the deal. >> he's assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars out any limit at all. >> reporter: republicans who say they're open to raising tax revenue say they will only do so in exchange for deep spending cuts. if washington can't strike a deal, one casualty will be compensation for the long-term...
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by eliminating deductions, you make the tax system more fair one. it is the rich who have the lawyers who rk around the rates and have the lobbyis who create loopholes. >> no principle involved? >> mayay i explain -- i head the jujuly 2011 argument first from rush limbaugh. i think i also hea fro drudge -- >> did you see it on tape? >> i know when it comes from, and you r repted it quite well. on the question of rights the reason i came to this principle -- principle who did the first thing on rates? bill clinton? who changed the rates again? george bush. they try to change the conversation by talking about revenue, you poor unwatched people don't understand the difference between rates and revenues. >> nina, bring us altogether please >> with a number of lobobbyists and the super pacs morphing into lobbyists, it will take quite some time, if it ever happens. we have to make that deal now and everybody understands that there is not some magic bullet. you have to d all. you have to raise revenue and you have to -- >> that is simply not true. >> it is
by eliminating deductions, you make the tax system more fair one. it is the rich who have the lawyers who rk around the rates and have the lobbyis who create loopholes. >> no principle involved? >> mayay i explain -- i head the jujuly 2011 argument first from rush limbaugh. i think i also hea fro drudge -- >> did you see it on tape? >> i know when it comes from, and you r repted it quite well. on the question of rights the reason i came to this principle -- principle who...
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tax rates for small businesses and individuals. it was a pretty good package, more than he should have expected coming off december 2010 after a month after republicans had swept the election and taken back control of the house. there's history here but now the economy is good enough that he feels he can say this is it, i'm standing my ground, we're going to end these rates and yet he still wants some stimulus in his deal, infrastructure spending. gwen: this is an interesting moment where we're not hearing a lot from either side. either they're keeping it to themselves because they're making progress or there's nothing to say. which is more likely? >> i think they're keeping it to themselves because they're making progress. there's something cooking behind the scenes. gwen: why do you think that? >> you saw last week when the president made his first offer to speaker boehner. boehner's office leaked that out almost immediately to the press and then mcconnell's office leaked out the fact that mccobble had laughed at tim geithner whe
tax rates for small businesses and individuals. it was a pretty good package, more than he should have expected coming off december 2010 after a month after republicans had swept the election and taken back control of the house. there's history here but now the economy is good enough that he feels he can say this is it, i'm standing my ground, we're going to end these rates and yet he still wants some stimulus in his deal, infrastructure spending. gwen: this is an interesting moment where we're...
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. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> a leading conservative decides to give up his senate seats. >> a lot of my role in the senate has been stopping bad things, but we need to do more than that and tell americans what we are for. >> in syria, a concern about the possible use of weapons of mass destruction if south. >> the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> the chattering classes are already chatting about 2016. >> look, i am flattered, i am honored. that is not in the future for may. "tim brant's college football captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> for the record, the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.7%, the economy adding 146,000 jobs in november. we want to keep that in mind as we head towards the fiscal cliff. only four in 10 americans expect the white house and congress to reach a deal on the cliff before the first of the year, and if this goes south, a 53% of the american people are prepared to blame republicans. the president's job approval rating is well over 50%. congress' approva
. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> a leading conservative decides to give up his senate seats. >> a lot of my role in the senate has been stopping bad things, but we need to do more than that and tell americans what we are for. >> in syria, a concern about the possible use of weapons of mass destruction if south. >> the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> the chattering classes are already...
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the arguments for higher taxes for the wealthy are getting very tense. ann coulter even tried a reality check on sean hannity. >> are you saying, then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am, but -- >> you're saying capitulate to obama, who -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >>> meanwhile, the house of representatives passed legislation yesterday removing the word lunatic from all federal laws. it's the latest move by congress to remove language seen as demeaning or out of date, like lunatic. >>> and in australia, prime minister julia gillard talked about the supposed prediction by the mayan calendar that the end of the world is coming in two weeks. well, she did it for a comedy video for a radio show. >> i'm confident in the prediction that the world is about to end. whether the final blow comes from flesh-eating zombies, demonic hill beasts or from the total triumph of cable, if you know one thing about me, it is this, i will always fight for you
the arguments for higher taxes for the wealthy are getting very tense. ann coulter even tried a reality check on sean hannity. >> are you saying, then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am, but -- >> you're saying capitulate to obama, who -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >>> meanwhile, the house of representatives passed legislation yesterday removing...
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about is on the issues that the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about -- >> taxing the rich? they're against that. >> there are individuals out there that they can appeal to, and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump this -- what demint is doing and saying that all this gaggle of conservatives are going to be following behind it. >> i agree with that part. >> the split is much more than you think it is within the party. and so that's got to be reconciled to be honest about it. it's got to be reconciled, and to your point and your question about what would i say? i would say, look -- >> you're center right. you think the country is like you. >> understand where the country is, and that's where you need to be. >> rush limbaugh's show yesterday demint said conservatives' problem is not their message. their problem is getting their message out. let's listen. >> i think the problem is, as conservatives, we have not taken enough control of our message and our ideas and communicated them directly to the american people. that's what we want to do at heritag
about is on the issues that the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about -- >> taxing the rich? they're against that. >> there are individuals out there that they can appeal to, and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump this -- what demint is doing and saying that all this gaggle of conservatives are going to be following behind it. >> i agree with that part. >> the split is much more than you think it is within the party. and so...
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labor higher than we tax capitol. the republicans believe it does, they believe the higher you tax something the more you are discouraging it. there is bill crystal asking why do we want to tax labor more than capitol? that is the question. >> it is interesting. you are are seeing rank and file members of the party. you are starting to see the troops fall away. what would happen if for instance the senate bill were to be voted on in the house? >> they want to do it. and it would pass. we would have to get into these other questions. >> polls favoring the president in his approach and the outcome that he wants. and the polls i don't think that rush are limbaugh is reading those polls. >> there is no way to come to an agreement. the only thing that can happen is for one side to cave in. this is being realistic. there is no common ground here. there is no bipartisanship to be had. it ain't going to happen. there is no compromise. none. there is only concession. and that is what will happen. when rush doesn't want to soun
labor higher than we tax capitol. the republicans believe it does, they believe the higher you tax something the more you are discouraging it. there is bill crystal asking why do we want to tax labor more than capitol? that is the question. >> it is interesting. you are are seeing rank and file members of the party. you are starting to see the troops fall away. what would happen if for instance the senate bill were to be voted on in the house? >> they want to do it. and it would...
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no to taxes. do you any any republicans sent to congress to facilitate the president spending to us oblivion? they no. or they will be sent home. >> president feels like he was elected on a campaign where he mentioned on the stump many times, raising tax rates. >> i understand that. >> but under our system the congress writes the law and president enforces them. if they don't go along with the law that the president wants it won't become the law. then we won't let him borrow more and he can't spend more than what the treasury collects. it's forced to reduce spen spending. that is the only way to get the house in order. >> over the cliff. >> over the cliff. >> juan? >> i hope not. i don't think it's good for most of america. it could be damage for economy struggling to recover. takes us further down the road for what i think is the news of the day. argument over the debt ceiling today. that is one point of the republican lench in the dole. some machiavellian misstep made. he wanted the democrats to
no to taxes. do you any any republicans sent to congress to facilitate the president spending to us oblivion? they no. or they will be sent home. >> president feels like he was elected on a campaign where he mentioned on the stump many times, raising tax rates. >> i understand that. >> but under our system the congress writes the law and president enforces them. if they don't go along with the law that the president wants it won't become the law. then we won't let him borrow...
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but from the tax code in 1913 only 14 pages we have warped into the 702000 page monster. more than 1,000 different forms to download. nobody understands. h&r block loves it but it is a news around the neck of the american economy. every page has something in it that sounds good but look what it adds up to 27 spending. the welfare state. people say take care of people. unintended consequence? >> you heard those most vulnerable. the welfare state is like flypaper. there are shocking figures showing as the income rises to live the american dream, you start to get taxed on one end the government takes away benefits on the other end those who lose a living standard with $10,000 more in salaries. >> they play more in taxes and lose government benefits. >> earned income credit, of welfare benefits, medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance, you're on a treadmill. you are running harder and it goes backwards. think of the mmssage that since. they think i will not work as hard or get disability. john: in pennsylvania with $29,000 of income you are better to stay there than earning
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we will accept some tax increases. but let's remember, there are some very important details to be worked out. how much and when. will they just say, okay, we will stand aside while democrats pass this tax cut for the middle class and then let the tax cuts for the wealthy engs pyre? that could happen. but does it happen before the end of the year? does it happen after the end of the year? >> now, dana, on that point, a lot of this is that they seem to have already lost the american public. in a new series of polls. quinnipiac shows that americans have views close to the president. 65% say raise taxes on $250,000 plus. 85% of polls pledged against raising taxes. that's 85%. 51% think that the gop is negotiating in bad faith. so the public seems to be gone from the republican cause. >> right. by two to one in virtually all of these polls we are seeing that they are likely to blame the republicans if the fiscal cliff is reached. and i think you've seen president obama going around the country, as with that family and the
we will accept some tax increases. but let's remember, there are some very important details to be worked out. how much and when. will they just say, okay, we will stand aside while democrats pass this tax cut for the middle class and then let the tax cuts for the wealthy engs pyre? that could happen. but does it happen before the end of the year? does it happen after the end of the year? >> now, dana, on that point, a lot of this is that they seem to have already lost the american...
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to a higher tax rate. i think they would be fine getting rid of some of the loopholes, but if this goes to where it's just higher tax rates on the rich and very little spending cuts, they little reform, i think there will be huge outrage. >> how about a sizable adjustment in entitlements, a big -- billions of dollars in cuts in regular spending, appropriations spending, and a reduction in the rich person's tax rate, a rise to 37% or 38%, would that sell with the right or not? >> i think there's a chance if they would see real reform, real cuts, more than what the president was saying, 2.5 times of cuts for every tax increase, but what they don't want are tax increases now and future cuts. that's not going to work. >> okay. thank you. just want to know what the rules were in the sane world and the insane world. i think it's going to be more like one to one and i think it's going to be something like i mentioned. let me go back to you, bob. i don't know what it looks like to you. just the other day, you don'
to a higher tax rate. i think they would be fine getting rid of some of the loopholes, but if this goes to where it's just higher tax rates on the rich and very little spending cuts, they little reform, i think there will be huge outrage. >> how about a sizable adjustment in entitlements, a big -- billions of dollars in cuts in regular spending, appropriations spending, and a reduction in the rich person's tax rate, a rise to 37% or 38%, would that sell with the right or not? >> i...
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we talk about the state capital which was tax -- 74% tax exempt. a lot of it was a result of the state taking over a large percentage of our city. a lot of it was non for profits. i have had a good working relationship with people in the state governments. it is good to have them close. i can see what they're doing and to buy and put and see what i can do for the people of the city. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] host: we turn our attention to unemployment insurance and how it can be impacted. joining us for the discussion is josh . caller: it is a combination of a federal and state program. it usually lasts -- it can be extended up to 93 weeks. it is the extension be on the six month time frame we're talking about as part of the fiscal cliff tops. host: that is what might be caught -- cut? guest: that is what automatically expires. president obama has said as part of the deal i want to make, the benefits should continue. republicans have not taken a firm stand. we ha
we talk about the state capital which was tax -- 74% tax exempt. a lot of it was a result of the state taking over a large percentage of our city. a lot of it was non for profits. i have had a good working relationship with people in the state governments. it is good to have them close. i can see what they're doing and to buy and put and see what i can do for the people of the city. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]...
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taxes, raising taxes is last on the list. we need to look at the spending side more than anything else. >> will there be a concerted effort to usher in a new era of compromis compromise? >> you know what, i look forward to seeing that. i've talked to people on the democratic side. and i said what can we do to put the party politics aside and let's put the country first? and it was interesting getting the feedback. because the any freshmen coming in seem to feel the same way. and i look forward to sitting down with them. and right now i'm not involved in that process. we're on the outside and i have an opinion just like everybody else. i know mr. boehner has been working real hard trying to work out a deal with mr. obama. and i just hope they can come to grips and terms so that we have some certainty. that's the biggest thing facing our nation as far as the business people. what washington has done is they've created a climate of confusion over the last five, ten years with their policies, rules, regulations and mandates. and
taxes, raising taxes is last on the list. we need to look at the spending side more than anything else. >> will there be a concerted effort to usher in a new era of compromis compromise? >> you know what, i look forward to seeing that. i've talked to people on the democratic side. and i said what can we do to put the party politics aside and let's put the country first? and it was interesting getting the feedback. because the any freshmen coming in seem to feel the same way. and i...
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but from the tax code in 1913 only 14 pages we have warped into the 702000 page monster. more than 1,000 different forms to download. nobody understands. h&r block loves it but it is a news around the neck of the american economy. every page has something in it that sounds good but look what it adds up to 27 spending. the welfare state. people say take care of people. unintended consequence? >> you heard those most vulnerable. the welfare state is like flypaper. there are shocking figures showing as the income rises to live the american dream, you start to get taxed on one end the government takes away benefits on the other end those who lose a living standard with $10,000 more in salaries. >> they play more in taxes and lose government benefits. >> earned income credit, of welfare benefits, medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance, you're on a treadmill. you are running harder and it goes backwards. think of the mmssage that since. they think i will not work as hard or get disability. john: in pennsylvania with $29,000 of income you are better to stay there than earning
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so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income earnings benchmark. >> i think the discussion the speaker advanced which matches what the president talked about in terms of his campaign of $800 billion in new revenues, getting there through less deductions is on the table. at this point we want to see, mr. president you show us yours and we'll show us ours. these negotiations go step by step closer and closer. i do agree with an early panelist that said the president probably wants to be a little bit freer from his base and so does the speaker to some degree. we are very interested in the spending cuts, and i can tell you that if the president gives us a good deal that reduces spending, takes down the deficit, and turns the economy around and creates jobs, we're going to be all
so, you know, i think the discussion is is it really a tax problem or a tax and a spending problem? if we agree it is spending, let's start to talk about some of the spending. >> where will the compromise come, though? is there room to compromise on the tax percentage, or if you do the sliding scale and move it from the 250,000 benchmark to 500,000 income earnings benchmark. >> i think the discussion the speaker advanced which matches what the president talked about in terms of his...
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saying we're not budging on tax breaks. we're not going to cave in on that. but, we might end up doing something. give me a little bit of room on entitlements. i understand that's the message and the progressive message is we'll give you a little room. we don't want to give you a lot. >> if you isolate the medicare piece of it, they don't want to do anything on the individual medicare rips. maybe we could do something on -- i think the progressive wish list would be to do something on negotiating drug prices, bringing that back from the old fight, the affordable care act. so i think there is wiggle room. i think democrats are dug in on not touching social security and i would be shocked if that even entered the conversation. >> the cpi change, something the president has offered and he's ready to do that. >> i think people want to protect medicaid, obviously, and would like to protect social security. i think medicare is the rule. >> thatour gaggle will stick ar. we'll hear from the white house officially when they can first talk about the jobs report. they c
saying we're not budging on tax breaks. we're not going to cave in on that. but, we might end up doing something. give me a little bit of room on entitlements. i understand that's the message and the progressive message is we'll give you a little room. we don't want to give you a lot. >> if you isolate the medicare piece of it, they don't want to do anything on the individual medicare rips. maybe we could do something on -- i think the progressive wish list would be to do something on...
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they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game. the fact of the matter is most americans, even if they're called republicans, even if they consider themselves conservatives, they understand that 98% of americans do deserve a tax cut, a continuation of the bush tax cuts. and they understand that the rich have never been as rich, and they've never paid an effective tax rate that is as low in living memory. if we have a budget deficit at all, it is only fair. and you don't have to be -- again you don't have to be a republican, you can be a common sense republican to understand that this requires that the bush tax cuts not be extended for the richest 2%. it is finally getting through. and i think t
they are saying we're not voting for a tax rise or a tax cut. we're kind of abstaining all around. well, if that's their position, fine. i think they call that not leading. >> secretary reich, what do you make of that? we talk about kibuki theater. is anything more kibuki than that, voting present instead of yes, abstaining instead of casting a vote one way or another? >> it's a game within a game within a game. and it's an insiders game. the fact of the matter is most americans,...
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they sent her a tax bill for $300,000. they wouldn't do that to you and your wonderful wife and they wouldn't do that to other straight couples in this country. it's not fair. >> let's go to -- let's get revolutiona revolutionary. we only have a few minutes. wonder looking at justice kennedy maybe because he's irish, i'm just kidding, there's something about him i find very interesting. >> and from california. >> he's from california. if you look at the majority opinion in the case involving lawrence texas which was about outlawing or basically declaring sodomy -- anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional, he says not only in that court decision you can't deny a person's liberty in these cases to engage in intimate conduct but it's about something bigger. marriage is is not about having constant sex, it's about having a loving relationship. it's about people. >> right. >> not organs. let me -- >> it's about families. >> okay. you tell it your way. if it gets down to questions of liberty and equal protection of the law, fundamental
they sent her a tax bill for $300,000. they wouldn't do that to you and your wonderful wife and they wouldn't do that to other straight couples in this country. it's not fair. >> let's go to -- let's get revolutiona revolutionary. we only have a few minutes. wonder looking at justice kennedy maybe because he's irish, i'm just kidding, there's something about him i find very interesting. >> and from california. >> he's from california. if you look at the majority opinion in the...
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i am a flat tax guy. what i don't get is why the united states wants to imitate the mistakes of western europe, jim pethokoukis. that's what i don't get. you get the last word. >> i think it's stunning and i hope we learn from yoour mistak as quickly as they did in great britain. >>> who needs to wait for a recession? our next guest says we may already be in one and it started way back in july. think about that. recession last july. stay with us. he'll defend his position. r ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> we've got some more breaking news for you. the michigan
i am a flat tax guy. what i don't get is why the united states wants to imitate the mistakes of western europe, jim pethokoukis. that's what i don't get. you get the last word. >> i think it's stunning and i hope we learn from yoour mistak as quickly as they did in great britain. >>> who needs to wait for a recession? our next guest says we may already be in one and it started way back in july. think about that. recession last july. stay with us. he'll defend his position. r ]...
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they say he is focused as you heard in that sound bite about taxes and that part of it. they are not hearing a lot about spending cuts which republicans obviously think is the big driver of the debt issue. when the president is now demanding that raising the nation's debt ceiling combined in this deal. what republicans like mitch mcconnell think is going on the president just wants to spend more money. listen. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit but so he can spend to his heart's content. as a result some democrats have pushed the president to just raise the nation's debt ceiling on his own. they believe he has that executive power by invoking the 14th amendment of the constitution. but jay jay cancer carney the white house spokesman has studied that. they do not believe the president has that executive power. what that means they have
they say he is focused as you heard in that sound bite about taxes and that part of it. they are not hearing a lot about spending cuts which republicans obviously think is the big driver of the debt issue. when the president is now demanding that raising the nation's debt ceiling combined in this deal. what republicans like mitch mcconnell think is going on the president just wants to spend more money. listen. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday, is...
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they want lower taxes. they don't want their taxes -- they -- and i would submit to you that you don't see in washington, d.c. lobbies for the middle class for the job less. >> right. >> people of color. what you have in washington are these establishment, well-funded corporate lobbies. they want to fund corporations as people. they want those tax breaks. they are not working for the common good. around this country, you have social movements in motion. you have a lot of good progressive ideas. it is the case that right now we shouldn't be talking about cuts. we should be talking about how to create jobs. >> yeah. >> we should be talking about how to invest in our country and not be involved in kind of an austerity-light. >> that's going to take a lot more work, but i -- i respectfully submit that there are amount of good -- a lot of good progressive -- there is a lot of good progressive work and movement work. >> i love this. well, cat written t /* katrina, you are bringing some much-needed, positive view
they want lower taxes. they don't want their taxes -- they -- and i would submit to you that you don't see in washington, d.c. lobbies for the middle class for the job less. >> right. >> people of color. what you have in washington are these establishment, well-funded corporate lobbies. they want to fund corporations as people. they want those tax breaks. they are not working for the common good. around this country, you have social movements in motion. you have a lot of good...